I've been reading stuff on the net about mind control, especially the CIA kind.

The CIA have recently released a lot of documents about their mind control experiments. They describe how they could control somebody (in this case it was a teenage girl) to kill and not remember. They used trigger words in books, tv, radio etc.

Thing is, if they're admitting this is what was happening back in the 50's and 60's, how far advanced are they now? How can we be sure that certain events are not carried out by mind controlled zombies?

Remember the Washington sniper? At the time GWB was trying to win a vote in congress about going to war with Iraq, or something like that, I can't remember exactly. There was a lot of fear and panic stirred up by these two men going around shooting people in a seemingly random way. Descriptions of the sniper and the vehicle he was driving were completely different to the men and vehicle that was finally apprehended.

And remember how they were caught? They were found asleep in a car park AFTER the police chief in charge of the investigation read out a very strange message. Speaking to the sniper directly through a tv broadcast he said 'You've asked me to say you'll be caught like a duck in a noose'. At the time people wondered where this saying came from, but I think they missed the point. I think that 'duck in a noose' phrase was the trigger phrase to tell them to stop and go to sleep so they could be caught.

Why would somebody send out a sniper to kill indiscriminately? Well, to engender a climate of fear which might win somebody a vote to go to war. Then on the night the vote is taken the press would be full of the story that they had been caught. Did you know that Williams, the older sniper was in the same National Guard unit as the man who led the apparently inept investigation, police chief Moose? Coincidence? Maybe

Scully

Mind control eh?

Listen to my voice ... I am the Master ... You will obey ...

Regards,

The Master

On a more serious note .. have you ever heard of something called "neurolinguistic programming" ? It is supposed to be a way of speaking in order to control conversations or make people think of you in a certain way.

The Master

spike was *programmed* in Buffy.

everytime he heard a certain song he went bad....this was after he was good....and there was a reference to the gulf war, where this was also a practice.

I thought the programming in Buffy was by magic?

The Master

umm..yes to an extent,

also I think I have got a little mixed up with that and the last Ian Rankin Book I read!!

That's spooky I actually hadn't heard about that until yesterday when I read an online article about it

Scully

Its very scary how goverment officials etc use mind control and I too think what the hell are they capable of now. They really are quite an evil lot.

Trouble is anyone can do mind control if they're bad enough. I once read a book called Perfect Victim The true story of the girl in the box. It made incredible reading but to think that there are people so evil out there capable of doing these things is beyond belief, but more incredible is that someone was put through that and survived. The whole thing is disgusting if you ask me.

On a much lighter note regarding buffy. My favourite bit was after Spike escaped with the chip in his head and tried to bite Willow. Made for hilarious viewing. Also the musical episode was good to, Spike, Giles and Dawn could really sing....go them.

The info on the sniper is very interesting Dana, it is said that the guy who assassinated Robert Kennedy was under some kind of mind control. Anyone see Derren Brown's psychological manipulations on TV? Its surprising what can be done quite simply.

Ahhh, the Master is on his megalomaniac deeds again I see!

Interesting theories Dana, thanks I remember reading something about subconscious 'subliminal' TV pictures recently........

I recently read about brain implants the size of a grain of rice or smaller that could carry and transmit all sorts of information. They can allow soldiers to go for four or five days without sleep, allow orders to be sent directly to the brains of soldiers etc.

There was also a lot of controversy about the new emergency services radio, TETRA. Apparently it pulses at around the same frequency as the human brain which has caused some to believe it might be used as some sort of 'zombification' tool if ever there was widespread public disorder. I don't know if it can do that but around one hundred officers from the Lancashire Police are taking their authority to court because they say it is causing a lot of sickness. Strange thing, I don't know if it is connected but I started getting splitting headaches at the begining of September. Around the middle of Sept I was looking at our local police website where it was announced that TETRA had come into operation that month.

Actually it seems that the powers-that-be don't know exactly how it will affect those operating it and there was a report to a parliamentary commission (I think) that stated that members of the emergency services will be useful in providing data for future research. How callous was that?

Scully

Sounds like its leading down the same road as mobile phones. They never disclose everything, so that we can't make a just decision.

According to this web site, it's all the work of the Illuminati:

Aah, the Illuminati, the 'enlightened' ones, though some might call them followers of darkness. Now there's grist for the mill of conspiracy.

Scully

I've only just really read the title of this subject and now find it quite clever:-
Mind control, what do you think?
I think what I'm told to think

Oo-er I'm cleverer than I thought Or was I supposed to say that?

Think I'll go before I confuse myself totally

Scully