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nisse
This documentary on UK TV was very interesting, and I was surprised that I hadn't already heard that the problem of what caused the Universe to come into existence had been solved. You'd think it would have been front-page news! I was amused by the scientists planning to create their own new universe in a lab. smile.gif

Basically our universe was created by two membranes in the 11th dimension colliding with each other. But my immediate response was: if these membranes already existed, then where did they come from? blink.gif
Ogre
I'm sure I saw somewhere that Gravity isn't native to this Universe. (can we call it Continueum (s) ) But is actually bleeding in from somewhere else, which is why its such a weak force (apologies to all those falling out of the sky or off buildings at the moment).

What I want to know is what's bleeding off from this Continueum (s) to balance it out.

"Hey, you give us the multiple male orgasm and we'll give you a way of keeping your cup on your desk ! Swap ?"

Ogre
nisse
This might help explain it:
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Dr Michio Kaku: The amount of energy necessary to create a bubbled universe is zero. Matter has positive energy, but gravity has negative energy. The sum of the two might be zero. This means that bubbled universes can be created all the time. So the Universe is for free.

So maybe it's balanced by all the matter in our universe that's leaking out through black holes!

I also found the answer to my question:
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We believe that a multiverse of universes exist like bubbles floating in Nothing. Each bubble forms as a quantum fluctuation in Nothing. We feel that as this bubble forms its matter is dominated by strings and membranes which create musical notes which we see as particles of the universe.

Boiling water is a purely quantum mechanical event. If water molecules were like billiard balls, water would never boil. Water boils and a tiny fluctuation occurs in water. Similarly, universes may be created all the time, even as we speak, due to fluctuation in Nothing. In other words, universes may be for free and Big Bangs happen all the time like in boiling water.


The transcript of the programme is here, and the transcript of an online chat about the programme is here. smile.gif
Dax
mmmm, I dont know much about bubble unis, but I do like the ribbon idea, of time and "life" bending, every now and then touching and mixing.

maybe this is just a dream state, a bit like the matrix?
maybe this is just one place out of a whole heap of places?

why should we be the only ones?......then of course we get onto aliens etc laugh.gif

sorry I think I side tracked there! biggrin.gif

but if you think of deejavu and dooblegangers (spl?) things that are so similar to our exsistence........well to me it seems there is some where else with people like us who have got mixed up, just for a spilt second
Eckie
The problem with all 'creator' theories is that there is always the question..... who created the creators?
nisse
QUOTE (Dax @ Jan 12 2005, 07:40 PM)
but if you think of deejavu and dooblegangers (spl?) things that are so similar to our exsistence........well to me it seems there is some where else with people like us who have got mixed up, just for a spilt second
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Well, apparently the other universes are only about one millimetre away from us (in a direction we can't perceive), so some form of entanglement may be quite likely. As well as the doppelgangers, there are the stories about people suddenly finding themselves in a different time, like the person who went into a shop that was demolished decades ago, or the holidaymakers who spent the night in a pre-war French village (unfortunately none of the pictures they took came out).

Also, quantum physicists are now seriously saying that every time a choice is made, new universes are created, one for each possible outcome. So somewhere out there is a universe that's exactly like this one, except that we all won the lottery last week! laugh.gif
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