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The Doctor
I have to say I do have a very open mind where the possibilities of other 'Alien life' are concerned, while my experiences of seeing/feeling/sensing alien life are not ones I'm aware of having(!), I do know of a few people who have had direct experiences.

One theory I've heard a few times, is that no aliens exist, they are the 'future' of the human race appearing (a sort of advanced future 'man'?) - do you think this theory is credible? smile.gif

Generally though, our universe is immense, and other universes may be beyond that and beyond our comprehension at this time; so I feel we cannot, by the law of averages be the only life form in existence and discount such possibilities...
Dax
by thinking we are the only people in the universe is very arrogant of us.

there must be something else out there

I also go along with the fact it could be the human race coming back from the future to gain DNA from the current race.

there are so many theories, why shouldn't one of them be true??
Eckie
If time travel is ever to be invented then we would see these travellers from time to time. This would explain a lot of the UFO mystery and perhaps they deliberatly pretend to be aliens to throw us off the scent as it were. I don't beleive that UFOs are sent from other planets for many reasons, one being that there are too many of them....... think of how much of a civilisations resourses would have to be used to send all these craft and to do what? I do believe that there is other life out there and one day we may communicate with them, but maybe not yet
The Doctor
QUOTE (Eckie @ Oct 12 2003, 11:59 PM)
think of how much of a civilisations resourses would have to be used to send all these craft and to do what?

I too believe there has to be other intelligent life out there in the vastness of what the galaxy has to consist of. Like you say too, why bother sending vessels to come to Earth and travel massive distances and then not say or do anything?!

Where did I read recently that new telescopes will soon be available to enable humans to see even further and previously unseen planets? Can't quite remember! rolleyes.gif biggrin.gif
Eckie
Yes I heard that too, before long they will be able to see so far into space that a scientist will be able to see the back of his own head! At first they would think they were seeing a forested planet...... but seriously, it will be fantastic to see another planet outside our solar system. I hope I live long enough to see it.
Dax
considering what we could see 100 years ago, we have come a long way, and a few years before that the world was thought to be flat.

this is why it annoys me when people are addament that we are the only life forms in the universe, just because we havent found it yet doesnt mean its not there.

if life forms are still being discovered on this world......why not on another??
Dana_Scully
There are so many theories as to what 'aliens' are. Some say they are actually from earth and they live below the surface, a remnant of a superior race that was mostly destroyed in some huge cataclysm.

Others theorise that they are here all the time but their bodies resonate at a much higher frequency than our own and we can't see them because we are not equipped to see them. Or they come from another dimension.

There is a lot of buzz on other forums about the return of Planet X, aka Nibiru, a planet of the solar system that takes 3,600 years to orbit the sun. It is peopled by a race called the Annunaki who came to earth to mine for gold and then, using genetic engineering, mixed their genes with those of the local hominids thus creating the human race as a slave race to mine for gold. They are reputed to be very tall and are actually referred to in the bible. 'In those days there giants on the earth....and the sons of God married the daughters of man' (paraphrased)

I'm keeping an open mind on the subject smile.gif

Dana
The Doctor
QUOTE (Dana_Scully @ Oct 13 2003, 10:27 AM)
Others theorise that they are here all the time but their bodies resonate at a much higher frequency than our own and we can't see them because we are not equipped to see them.  Or they come from another dimension.

Interesting ideas Dana, almost like a 'parallel universe' theory, it's a fascinating subject smile.gif

I wonder if we'll see the existence of alien life within our lifetimes....? smile.gif
Moon Dancer
I'm sure that there is life out there, although probably "not as we know it" wink.gif .

Isn't there all that stuff about the pyramids too? Y'know their alignment to the planets? rolleyes.gif
Dana_Scully
I found this tonight on the Pravda site (via davidicke.com)

Were Cro-Magnons Biologically Engineered by Extraterrestrials?
09/19/2003 19:48
Indeed, how to answer this question? Were we or were not? I believe the following answer may be true
Scientists cannot find the "Missing link", i.e. the form that was an immediate ancestor of the original Homo Sapiens, referred to as the Cro-Magnon man; while they found and continue finding remains of many less advanced forms that existed much time before.

In the mean time, the remains of this form, the supposed immediate ancestor that evolved into Homo Sapiens, should be met often enough (just like those of Neanderthal, moreover this form, which was not Homo Sapiens' ancestor, existed approximately at the same time): else how could this form engender the Cro-Magnons? Evolution takes many generations, and next generation has more representatives of a species than the previous one. The probability of finding remains increases with the number of generations and beings lived.

If scientists cannot find such a form, while they find many less advanced forms, this may mean for %99.9 that this form never existed, and that the original Homo Sapiens was genetically engineered. By whom?

I believe the answer is evident: by certain intelligent beings, of extraterrestrial origin. (If we assume these intelligent beings were of terrestrial origin, i.e. were non-human intelligent species who lived on the Earth and who reached such a level of development that could engineer the Homo Sapiens, then the situation will be yet more complex than with the "Missing link", since no remains of any other intelligent beings for those times were found. And if we assume they buried their dead so that no remains would have been found, then how could they do that at the level they reached before, i.e. when they were not as advanced as when they buried their dead in the described way? Could they have found and buried (burnt?) all of their dead? Remark that they should have been many enough, else how could they create such a developed civilization that was supposedly able to biologically engineer such species like Homo Sapiens? Unless we assume that intelligent octopuses or dolphins -- sea inhabitants -- could have created a civilization and engineered an intelligent primate...)

Many scientists think that the creation issue is simply this: Our existence, the universe and everything we observe was a product of either:
A. Creation = Intelligent design
B. Chance or Random Occurrence = Evolution

I don't think that, with the level of science reached nowadays, scientists can duly discuss and solve the problem of creation of the entire Universe (galaxies, stars, planets, satellites etc.), but perhaps the problem of emergence of life and intelligent life can be discussed in the following way...

Calculations show that the chance for emergence of life and moreover intelligent life is very low ("it is more likely that a hurricane could compose a new Boeing aircraft from the fragments of a broken one lying on the ground"). But the Universe is giant -- endless -- so this chance did take place, and the life, and then the intelligent life emerged. The civilization that was created by this intelligent life -- we can call this civilization God -- began creating life/intelligent life in other star systems (besides what we call aliens' bases in star systems, or giant mother ships), and maybe it was not only the life and bases that this civilization created, but also some star systems, planets, their satellites, quasars, and...

The issue here is that the Universe is not only endless, but also eternal, and this means that the process similar to the one described above may have taken place many (innumerable?) times in its different (innumerable) parts...

By Der Voron, author of the book "Starcraft"
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Scully
shadow
I have no idea what so ever. I like to stay open minded on the subject.

However, I thought the Doc had a very interesting theory, not heard that one before.
April
The Universe is vast, way beyond our imagination, and technology. I believe of course there are other life forms out there. Wouldn't want to meet one though
Dax
was reading in the paper that an galaxy with no stars has just been discovered

its 2 million light years away and has been called HVC 127-41-330, strange name I suppose, it could of been called harry or peter!!

it is a dark galaxy which is made up from black cloud made from hydrogen gas and "exotic particles" but it devoid of stars.
the cloud is rotating so fast that sciencists have decided it must be a strong source of gravity, maybe made from 80% of dark matter, dark matter is the hypothetical substance that is supposed to make up the universe!

amazing!
Eckie
Perhaps they should have called it the Black Galaxy, maybe that would be too frightening! alien1.gif
lauraakafoxy
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Ok well my opinion is - I think aliens/other life forms do exist - of course they do - we are not all there is but I dont belive they have anything to do with UFO's.
Notice most UFO sightings are near military bases? think of the things they could be testing in secret?
And why travel from other galaxies just to hover over us and have a look then drive all that way back? sounds a bit pointless to me.
I dont think they are visiting us but i do believe there is life out there.
The Doctor
QUOTE (lauraakafoxy @ Oct 20 2003, 09:04 AM)
And why travel from other galaxies just to hover over us and have a look then drive all that way back? sounds a bit pointless to me.

Yep, agreed there! It would take years and years to reach Earth, depending on the HUGE distances involved, then to turn around, spy on us and then go seems a bit silly to say the least! laugh.gif
Dana_Scully
Maybe they don't just hover, maybe they just want us to think they're hovering. Maybe they don't come from distant galaxies but from neighbouring dimensions. I don't think human beings know anywhere near enough to explain all these things, no not even the genius level ones.

But talking of galaxies I read somewhere that the Milky Way galaxy (our galaxy) is merging with another one. I'll try and find the article about it, I think it was on the BBC website.

Scully
The Doctor
Sounds interesting, thanks Scully biggrin.gif

Dimensional travel - interesting theories....or even parallel existence worlds to our own.......?
Dax
its all very well saying that why should they visit us, taking years to get to us.............you seem to be forgetting warp drive!!

it might be like traveling down the M1 to visit us for all we know

just because it would take years and years for us to get any where, doesnt mean any aliens are not more advanced than us. alien1.gif

look at star trek, differnet planets different species, all evolving at different rates.

we think we are advanced, some one from another planet might think we are dead slow.
we thought the victorains were backward, well actually they were quite forward thinking, we are just more advanced than they were.

and in the future our offspring will think we were backward, with our dvd players and petrol cars!! laugh.gif
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